Posts tagged sexuality
Posts tagged sexuality
I find the way economics, money, comfort, fear of hardship and other intangible human ideals gain priority over an actual physically present in the womb human life terribly saddening and demoralizing.
How is it that fabricated necessities such as special schools, equipment for the handicapped,…
Look, in the interest of being productive, I highly recommend you look up the costs of raising a child with, say, cerebral palsy, and then imagine doing it on minimum wage. Now try Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease. Now try Edwards Syndrome. Now try spina bifida.
So your answer is to kill the kid? Look up the costs of coping with cancer; and ask yourself whether you’d kill your spouse, parent of yourself because of the cost of treatment.
Human beings are smart, audacious and often passionate. I was born with a fucking hole in my heart, my entire family, including third and fourth cousins and people I haven’t even been able to meet emptied their bank accounts to pay for my surgery at age 1, and even with surgery, I was supposed to be dead by age 5. By your standards, my Mom should’ve just killed me and saved everyone the trouble. Again, life is a priority over money and economics in my particular way of seeing the world; I believe in struggling and pushing through for love. More importantly, I think any human life is more valuable than whatever amount of dollars you name.
No, I wouldn’t, because they are already-existing people with histories, goals, relationships, and obligations, as well as basic cognitive abilities. They also would not be solely relying on my body to survive. It still baffles me how anti-choicers can deny the very important differences between people and fetuses.
By my standards, your Mom should have done what she wanted and was able to do, which was give birth to you. And if she wanted to have an abortion, she should have been able to do that. Your experience is not universal. That is the point. What your mom should have done, or what you will do, does not matter to me or any pro-choicer; only that you have the right and all the means available to do it.
Unborn children have rights, the already born aren’t anymore valuable than them. What criteria do you use to decide who should live and who should die, and why is it not horrible discrimination? Why should anyone have the right over another’s life? Because a mother that bears child can kill it if she wanted to, do you call that right? What makes you think she has that “right”? You want her to have that right, but how do you justify it?
I gave you the criteria in my last reply to you. Fetuses/embryos are not persons, and they do not have rights. If they did, that would present a whole host of problems: would they be counted on the census? Could they be written off as dependents? Would they get a Social Security number? Would they need a “conception certificate?” If that’s when a new person was created, we’d need documentation of that. Would the government be required to step in to every pregnancy to ensure that every person in the womb was being sufficiently taken care of? There are a lot of unknowns about what’s good and bad during pregnancy; would the government have to make those decisions and decide what to enforce? Would every person’s period need to be examined to be sure they hadn’t had a chemical pregnancy? Who would be punished when an abortion was procured? Would a miscarriage be considered manslaughter? Would the pregnant person have to be investigated for murder? They could have caused the miscarriage purposely or through negligence, and now a person is dead. That’s how one would investigate child abuse. Would the government be allowed to dictate how a person gives birth?
My question to you is: why should anyone have the right over another’s body? No other being on earth has the right to be hooked up to another person’s circulatory system and use their organs. When would that right end? Would parents be legally obligated to donate their organs and blood to their children? After all, they chose to have them.
Sex is not a contract to pregnancy. If it was, no one could use contraception. Reproduction is one of the functions of sex. Most people who are having sex are not trying to get pregnant. Nearly half of all US pregnancies are unintended. My sister was conceived while my mom was breastfeeding and using a diaphragm. My parents certainly weren’t trying to conceive then.
A mother who bears a child has birthed the child. I assume that’s what you meant? She no longer has the right to abort it, because it’s no longer inside her, surviving solely off of her body. It’s now a member of society.
I justify abortion because I value people over fetuses, embryos, and blastocysts. I value mothers and their children over a new pregnancy. I value hopes and dreams over unwanted pregnancies. I value hard, sometimes life’s work, dedication, potential, and goals. I value bodily autonomy. I value mental and emotional health. I value physical health. I value careers, relationships, and obligations. I value the ability to control one’s own reproductive future. I value the knowledge that I do not know what is best for everyone. I value opportunities to better oneself. I value freedom. I value the safety of those in abusive relationships. Murder is a leading cause of death during pregnancy; 20% of deaths during pregnancy are due to intimate partner violence. Hundreds of thousands of pregnant people are victims of domestic violence every year, and the violence often escalates because of the pregnancy.
I justify my beliefs because I know that the next attack will be on contraception. I justify my beliefs because the next attack will be on education. I justify my beliefs because there should be no shame in sex. Because no person should be forced to be pregnant after their birth control was sabotaged by their partner, or after they were raped. Because a pregnancy can kill a person. Because two sets of rights cannot logically exist in one body; one set must trump the other. Because a person’s body should never be a crime scene. Because the risk of dying during pregnancy far exceeds the risk of dying during an abortion.
Most importantly, I justify my beliefs because abortion will happen, whether or not it is legal. Because hangers, knitting needles, car battery acid, plant poison, stairs, fists, soapy water, and unregulated herbs and drugs should not be surgical instruments, and dirty motel rooms and kitchens should not be operating rooms, and doctors shouldn’t ever have to ask, “Who did this to you?” when a person comes in hemorrhaging, with a raging fever and infection and disintegrating organs hanging out of their bodies. Because in poorer countries, where medical care is not readily available, the consequences of illegal abortion and forced birth are more horrific than you can comprehend.
That’s how I justify it.
Why I’m Pro-Choice (Feministe)
All of these problems are related. While this started out as an argument for the protection of unborn children with disabilities, it quickly came to cover other related issues.
“Reproduction is one of the functions of sex. Most people who are having sex are not trying to get pregnant.”
In that statement lies the source of all of the atrocities that are commited against unborn children throughout history. While reflecting on our discussion, I was reminded of the mass graves found in ancient greek and roman ruins with filled with infant corpses. Historians agree that these were pits in which societies threw newborns with deformities and those born out of ilegitimate relations. The selfishness through which people choose themselves over their unexpected, innocent, defenseless offspring and relief themselves of the responsibility that having sex brings is not new at all. All of the burocratic issues you mentioned, and for that matter, the special services and equipement that people with disabilities recieve are, albeit useful, fabrications of contemporary society. I’m not dissing the value of special assistance and/or governement burocracy, but I severely admonish how society uses those fabricated necessities to justify the killing of unborn children.
Returning to your statement on how reproduction is but one function of sex; I believe that your saying this is a manifestation of how society has distorted and corrupted sexuality. Sexuality has emotional, physical and reproductive facets. In recent times, our culture has tended to rip apart these facets from each other to fit our own convenience and selfishness. EG: I would like to orgasm but I can’t be bothered to build an emotional relationship with another, let alone raise a child, so I’ll engage in casual sex using contraception, or masturbation for that matter. EG2: I would like to have strong feelings of emotion for the person I’m currently dating, having sex with them may catalyze those stonger feelings into existence. I’ll have sex with them and hope for the best in the relationship, but I’ll use a contraceptive because having a child isn’t what I have in mind at the moment. EG3: I would like to have a child, but I haven’t been able to establish a solid relationship with a significant other, my time is running out, so I’ll pay someone to give me their seed in a warped, artifical, loveless act of reproduction.
I’ve described three real life cases of the distortion of sexuality, and of course you reading this probably take me as a judgemental prick who won’t accept other lifestyles. Say what you will, but I’m a believer in nature’s wisdom. I’m also a romantic, so I like to believe in maintining sexuality as a special ritual, rather than ripping it apart to fit my own selfish wants. My point? If people used their bodies responsibly, maintaining sexuality in the special pedestal where it should be, not distorting it as they do; problems such as the necessity for abortion and artificial contraceptives wouldn’t be necessary. Of course, it’s not really my place to tell other people how to live their lives and sex lives; if you want to destroy sexuality, I’m not entitled to stop you; but when your irresponsible and selfish acts are attacking people: voiceless, unborn, innocent children who get mercilessly slaughtered daily; I’ll be damned if I won’t speak in their defense.
tl;dr: You’re welcome to be as irresponsible as you want with your sexuality and your body. But when conception occurs, the true and natural consequence of your sexual act, the child, shouldn’t have to fall victim of your selfishness.
ps: I know you’re going to bring up pregnancy in the case of rape. I’ve never been raped, and I’m sure it is a traumatic horrible experience. I don’t wish it upon anyone. The child who is concieved from the act, however, is blameless for the crime of his father; and his or her execution is not justified.